Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA08684 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 17:30:17 +0200 Message-Id: <199602101530.RAA08684@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 86AA2D2D ; Sat, 10 Feb 1996 16:30:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 10:28:57 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: *old response to and #2 X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1000 Lines: 21 >John: >> > Anyway, to clarify, the syntax {duu} shd have is that it take a bridi >> > and yield a sumti. (LU takes a word string and yields a sumti.) >> That was once the case, actually, although the bridi was semantically >> restricted to mathematical identities. > >How come we lost it? Because Lojban doesn't HAVE semantic restrictions in its grammar. If we do not encode in the YACC grammar that a mathematical bridi is a different kind of animal than a non-mathematical one, then there is no constraint against using it non-mathematically, especially for certain rebellious types %^). It is cumbersome to maintain a YACC-grammatical distinction between the two types of bridi, and I suspect that mathematicians and logicians would say that there IS no essential difference between the two. So if you can see a justification for "du'u" in its present form for mathematical bridi, then you should be willing to accept that it is logical to accept the form for non-mathematical bridi. lojbab