Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA08298 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:35:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199602152035.PAA08298@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id DC445758 ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:00:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:45:19 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: loglan rapprochement orthography X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 996 X-From-Space-Date: Tue Feb 20 14:58:22 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - > >Anyway, it seems then that these are alternative phonologies as well as > >alternative orthographies. One has /au/ and no /ao/, and the other has > >/ao/ and no /au/. > No because the actually phonoilogy is identical - it is the orthographic > representation of the diphthong that differs, and not the diphthong > itself. I don't see the relevance of diphthongs here. Is "diphthong", in a lojban context, not merely a descriptive label for a sequence of certain phonemes? I understood that every letter corresponds uniquely to one phoneme. I further understood that with the two different standard orthographies, every letter should still correspond uniquely to one phoneme, but some phonemes are representable by more than one letter. Do I misunderstand? Does the second phoneme in (both orthographies) occur in the word (standard standard)? I am confused, and I rather suspect that this matter was not considered when the rapprochement orthography was designed. coo, mie and