Received: from wnt.dc.lsoft.com (wnt.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.7]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA17321 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 09:54:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199602131454.JAA17321@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by wnt.dc.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 2C840EB0 ; Tue, 13 Feb 1996 9:18:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 05:13:06 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: *old response on y and apostrophe X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: O X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1015 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Feb 14 12:50:51 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - >LOjbab: >> I have yet to hear an argument against apostrophe that doesn't reduce >> to (predominantly malglico or malropno) aesthetics, or the incompatibility >> of some software with using "punctuation marks" as letters of the >> alphabet - these software products apparently cannot handle standard >> English contractions as well, I presume. > >A further argument is redundancy; the <'> is usually nondistinctive >and can be omitted without confusion. Same for glottal stops, if >spaces are left between words. There has been very little complaint that LOjban is too redundant, and rather the reverse. JCB likes his conventions in part because they offer ADDED redundancy after the pattern of English - since capitals at the beginning of sentences are certainly NOT required except for redundancy. He doesn't need an apostrophe becasue he slurs all his glides anyway - his "eo" sounds like "eio", which is one reason we introduced the apostrophe: to make it clear that such slurring was NOT correct. lojbab