From - Tue Feb 20 14:58:38 1996 Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA10522 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:05:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199602152205.RAA10522@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 657BE452 ; Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:30:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:25:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Robert J. Chassell" Sender: Lojban list From: "Robert J. Chassell" Subject: Re: sera'aku GEN: almost-PROPOSAL: intervals X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, bob@rattlesnake.com To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <312246AF.BFD@ccil.org> (message from John Cowan on Wed, 14 Feb 1996 15:31:43 -0500) X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1140 .u'u .o'anai la bob. tcySEL. cusku di'e > la djan. klama la glazgov. pu la maris. > John goes/went/will-go to Glasgow in the past of Mary. > John went to Glasgow before Mary. Beware, malglico alert! The argument of "pu" is an event, so this means that Mary is an event. Yes, indeed! As Don Wiggins, said, this means John went to Glasgow before Mary existed (was born....). Not what I meant! And in the more complicated effort, lojbab suggests using `be': .i mi klama la glazgov. co'a lo nanca be li pi mu prulamji be le nu xabju la belfast. ^^ for: I go to Glasgow at the beginning of a half-year-type-of earlier-than-type-of-adjacency that is in the contiguous past of the event of living in Belfast meaning; I went to Glasgow six months before living in Belfast. This makes use of the x2 place of lamji: * adjacent, x1 is adjacent/beside/next to/in contact with x2 in property/sequence x3 in direction x4 /:/ [also touching, contiguous, against] /=/ lamji (lam la'i) .ua .u'a ki'e