Return-Path: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@vms.dc.LSOFT.COM Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA19623 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:30:33 +0200 Message-Id: <199602040930.LAA19623@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi> Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 474F56A5 ; Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:30:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 10:24:05 MET Reply-To: Goran Topic Sender: Lojban list From: Goran Topic Subject: Re: PLI: "except" X-To: Lojban Listserv To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1209 Lines: 35 > Another related word that I still don't know how to do in Lojban > is "even": > > That is important not only to the Irish. > (Important to the Irish and to others as well, the unexpected part > being that it is important to the others.) .i la'edi'u vajni lo po'onai .ue se gugdrneire > That is important even to the Irish. > (Important to the Irish and to others as well, the unexpected part > being that it is important to the Irish.) .i la'edi'u vajni lo .ue se gugdrneire ji'a > "Only" and "except" seem to be more basic, "only" giving the > only one that does, and "except" the only one that doesn't. .ie .iku'i mi ca'o krici ledu'u la'ezoi gy. except .gy. na smuni lu po'onai li'u > "Not only" and "even" seem to also have an element of unexpectedness > together with the basic meaning of "in addition to others". > > Does anyone have a theory for how to handle those in Lojban? zo .ue .a zo .ua co'o mi'e. goran. -- GAT/CS/O d?@ H s:-@ !g p1(2)@ !au(0?) a- w+(+++) (!)v-@(+) C++(++++) UU/H(+) P++>++++ L(>+) !3 E>++ N+ K(+) W--(---) M-- !V(--) -po+ Y(+) t+@(+++) !5 !j R+@ G-@(J++) tv+(++) b++@ D++ B? e+* u@ h!$ f?(+) r-- !n(+@) y+. GeekCode v2.1, modifications left to reader to puzzle out