From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Tue Mar 12 00:05:30 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA10787 ; Tue, 12 Mar 96 00:05:29 GMT Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 826570481:04431:1; Mon, 11 Mar 96 18:54:41 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa03449; 11 Mar 96 18:53 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6817; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:53:06 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1024; Mon, 11 Mar 96 13:53:32 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:59:09 -0300 Reply-To: "Jorge J. Llambias" Sender: Lojban list From: "Jorge J. Llambias" Subject: Re: intensional sets of bridi X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <826570432.3449.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R And: >How would one say in lojban "the set of propositions of the form >x is broda"? I think I would say: {lo'i du'u ke'a/ce'u broda} >{lo,i duu da broda} won't do, because that means >the set of propositions of the form Ex x is broda. A singleton, right? >What one needs >is a way to cancel the default interpretation of {da} as {suo da}. I prefer not to tamper with that. {da} is the bound variable, why use it for the function of unbound variables? >How? Could we have cmavo (in UI) to toggle between default >interpretations? I thought you were against the use of UI for such things. Jorge