From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Sun Mar 24 10:23:35 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA10948 ; Sun, 24 Mar 96 10:23:34 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 827588827:27179:0; Sat, 23 Mar 96 13:47:07 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa26645; 23 Mar 96 13:46 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5982; Sat, 23 Mar 96 08:45:59 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1410; Sat, 23 Mar 96 08:46:33 EDT Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 12:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: re'u To: lojban list Message-ID: <827588781.26645.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R Is it significant that _pare'u_ can be expressed as a complex of more normal tense and aspects articles: "I went and never went before" (within the relevant time frame), say. And then the other ordinals come in from this. I am not sure that this catches everything xorxes means to do with this form, some of which do look unlike tense/aspect, but it does sugest that here is a tense/aspect notion here deserving to get out into the appropriate place. (And, the notion of tense/aspect is already so fluid that a little more expansion does not seem out of place anyhow.) pc>|83