Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id FAA22816 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 05:40:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199603251040.FAA22816@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 8DCDC8F7 ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 5:37:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:14:42 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: opacity X-To: pcliffje@CRL.COM X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 553 Lines: 20 Content-Length: 523 Lines: 17 Content-Length: 492 Lines: 14 >cowan: > mi sisku tu'a le sisku > I search for a searcher. >pc: >This does not fit the pattern claimed for _sisku_ but rather the >pattern for most opaque contexts. _tu'a le sisku_ is an event >description, though a very vague one; it is not a property in any >case -- read the definition of _tu'a_, which is not merely an >opacity flag. That definition refers to an "unspecified abstraction" which does not necessarily rule out a property abstraction. lojbab