Received: from wnt.dc.lsoft.com (wnt.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.7]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA22263 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:14:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199603070014.TAA22263@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by wnt.dc.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 128D2420 ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:31:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:31:32 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: fuzzy To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1085 X-From-Space-Date: Thu Mar 07 12:23:04 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - Lojbab: > >> There is a predicate equivalent to negation/affirmation: jetnu/jitfa > >> so you can use a predicate with jetnu to get the equivalent of ja'a > >> with a subscript. There are all manner of other areas, some > >> unexplored, where predicates can pop into unusual grammatical locations. > >True, and quantifiers and connectives can be replaced by predicates too. > >But with much upheaval. If you use {jitfa} instead of {na} then you're > >going to have to use prenexes: {ro da zou kuau da broda kiai jitfa} > >= {ro da na ku broda}. > You only need prenexes when you are using prenexed variables like "da". "Three of the people each sort of went" = {ci le prenu jaa xi something ku klama} "Three of the people each did not go" = {ci le prenu na ku klama} Try doing that with {jitfa}. Not easy. > mi sei li fuzzyvalue cu fuzzybroda cu klama > (the latter being an example of apllying fuzz to "mi" rather than to the > truth value), which cannot be accomplished easily without free modifiers. I wouldn't have a clue how to interpret that lojban sentence. coo, mie And