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Date: Mon Mar 25 12:11:14 1996
From: ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Opacity and "sisku"
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Djan:
> There seems to have been some sort of confusion about the place
> structure I proposed for "sisku", with a property in x2.  This
> did not mean that "sisku" was a search for properties, but rather
> a structure of the form:
>    x1 searches for a thing/things with property x2 from field (set) x3
[...]
>        da poi bloti zo'u mi sisku le ka me da
>        There exists a boat X such that I search for something with
>                the property of being X.
>        mi sisku le ka [ce'u zo'u] ce'u bloti
>        I search-for-something-with the property-that {x : x is-a-boat}.

I don't object to this structure in itself, but I don't see why {sisku}
should be different from {nitcu}, {djica}, {kaltu}, etc etc. Are you
able to persuade Lojbab to change the place structures of all opacifying
gismu, so they match {sisku}?
coo; mie and