From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Tue Mar 26 00:36:11 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA10973 ; Tue, 26 Mar 96 00:36:09 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 827738168:03208:0; Mon, 25 Mar 96 07:16:08 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa02968; 25 Mar 96 7:15 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0202; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:14:54 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3118; Mon, 25 Mar 96 02:15:29 EDT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:14:42 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: opacity X-To: pcliffje@CRL.COM X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <827738138.2968.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R >cowan: > mi sisku tu'a le sisku > I search for a searcher. >pc: >This does not fit the pattern claimed for _sisku_ but rather the >pattern for most opaque contexts. _tu'a le sisku_ is an event >description, though a very vague one; it is not a property in any >case -- read the definition of _tu'a_, which is not merely an >opacity flag. That definition refers to an "unspecified abstraction" which does not necessarily rule out a property abstraction. lojbab