From - Mon Mar 25 12:11:14 1996 Reply-To: ucleaar Date: Mon Mar 25 12:11:14 1996 Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: Opacity and "sisku" X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 871 Message-ID: <_cFukgogxGM.A.ksG.8v0kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Djan: > There seems to have been some sort of confusion about the place > structure I proposed for "sisku", with a property in x2. This > did not mean that "sisku" was a search for properties, but rather > a structure of the form: > x1 searches for a thing/things with property x2 from field (set) x3 [...] > da poi bloti zo'u mi sisku le ka me da > There exists a boat X such that I search for something with > the property of being X. > mi sisku le ka [ce'u zo'u] ce'u bloti > I search-for-something-with the property-that {x : x is-a-boat}. I don't object to this structure in itself, but I don't see why {sisku} should be different from {nitcu}, {djica}, {kaltu}, etc etc. Are you able to persuade Lojbab to change the place structures of all opacifying gismu, so they match {sisku}? coo; mie and