Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA00335 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:33:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199604101833.OAA00335@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id E7945878 ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:27:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:25:03 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: *kamkantu To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 939 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Apr 19 11:34:41 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - And last month: >Goran >> Yes, but we do not differentiate between kamkantu and kamselkantu in >> gliban. > >Do we distinguish them in Lojban? After all, {ka kantu kei} means the >same as {ka se kantu kei}; or is there some jvajvo convention that makes >{kamkantu} = {ka kea kantu kei} and {kamselkantu} {ka kea se kantu kei}? >I suppose such a convention is a good idea, if you like jvajvo. I agree that it is a reasonable convention, but am not sure if it would be a universal one. By existing conventions, I believe the difference between kamkantu and kamselkantu is merely one of place structure order. My own instincts probably match your convention: kamkantu for me is quantumness - the property of quanta, whereas kamselkantu would be quantizedness - the property of being quantized/quantable (to coin several words - Goran is correct that English makes no difference in its existing voacbulary, but it can fake it %^) lojbab