From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Wed Apr 03 20:47:28 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA11227 ; Wed, 03 Apr 96 20:47:26 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 828560745:29475:2; Wed, 03 Apr 96 20:45:45 BST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa28937; 3 Apr 96 20:44 +0100 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1333; Wed, 03 Apr 96 14:44:48 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1552; Wed, 03 Apr 96 13:27:34 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:26:11 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: change 46 To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: <828560701.28937.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R Jorge: > pc: > > (By the way, why does no one ever point out that le q is > > always on an independent branch?) > There was a discussion on something related a while back. > What does {le re nanmu cu cinba le ri speni} mean? Is it > "each of the two men kisses his (own) spouse", or "each of > the two men kisses their (common) spouse"? I'm inclined to > think it is the first, but I don't think there ever was an > authoritative answer about that. (If it is the first, that > would be an example where {le} isn't on an independent branch, > I think.) That's more a question about {ri} than about {le}. The same problem arises with {le re nanmu cu cinba lo ri speni}. I'm not sure what pc means by "le q is on an independent branch". In what way is "le" on any branch at all, if it's specific/referential? (Scope does matter with {le}, but that's because {le} = {ro le}.) ===And