From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Wed Apr 10 22:01:15 1996 Received: from punt3.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA11308 ; Wed, 10 Apr 96 22:01:13 BST Received: from punt-3.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 829161650:20776:3; Wed, 10 Apr 96 19:40:50 BST Received: from relay-1.mail.demon.net ([158.152.1.140]) by punt-3.mail.demon.net id aa20708; 10 Apr 96 19:40 +0100 Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by relay-1.mail.demon.net id aa10600; 10 Apr 96 19:39 +0100 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 4626; Wed, 10 Apr 96 14:26:54 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8225; Wed, 10 Apr 96 14:26:27 EDT Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:26:14 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: *kamkuspe X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <829161559.10600.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R Steven Belknap: >>If what you want to say is quantized logic, .e'u use {selka'u logji} >>"logic of the thing which is quantized". The tanru mechanism takes care >>of this. If you said {kamkantu logji}, I would take it to mean "logic of >>the property of being a quant", not "logic with the property of being >>quantized" > >As you point out, the tanru and lujvo mechanisms are somewhat flexible. >So far, I prefer and to and . >I remain unconvinced that these are wrong. But you use lojban more than >me. Is there some compelling reason you see for calling >"wrong"? You haven't explained this yet. Not "wrong" just "different" - I don't think the logical x1 of the place structure would be that useful. A good way to think of "ka" compounds is to apply the English suffix "-ness". So selkantu is "quantized" while kamkantu is "quantumness". "selkuspe" means "ranged"/"ranging"/"continuing over a range" and by inference "continuous" (but I can envision kantykuspe or kuspykantu, for a ranged set of quanta). So "kamkuspe" COULD be "fuzziness", but is not merely "fuzzy". lojbab