From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Tue Aug 06 23:41:35 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA13692 ; Tue, 06 Aug 96 23:41:33 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 839291907:04095:0; Tue, 06 Aug 96 01:38:27 BST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa03629; 6 Aug 96 1:37 +0100 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5402; Mon, 05 Aug 96 20:37:05 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 9467; Mon, 05 Aug 96 20:36:34 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:35:20 -0700 Reply-To: David A Johnston Sender: Lojban list From: David A Johnston Subject: male/female, man/woman, human/person X-To: Lojban Mailing list To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <839291840.3629.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R Okay, the powers that be in the lojban community discourage the use of nanmu (man) and ninmu (woman), saying that they're sexist. Okay, I totally understand and support that guideline. The thing is, I wonder why they even exist as gismu. Why not just combine fetsi (female) with prenu (person) to form fetpre (female person)? (Or would it be fetypre?) It seems that fetpre and ninmu mean the same thing. They both have the same place structure, and are non-age and -species specific. Any thoughts? -marvin /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ a(m,W)float m,W;{int e=1;float p,Q,n;p=m;Q=W;while(e++<126) {n=p;p=p*p-Q*Q+m;Q=2*n*Q+W;if((p*p+Q*Q)>=4)return e;}return 0;}main(){float _,E=1.5;while((E-=0.130434783)>-1.5){for(_= (-2);_<1;_+=0.037974684)putchar(a(_,E)+32);putchar('\n');}}