From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Thu Aug 08 23:05:01 1996 Received: from punt4.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA13785 ; Thu, 08 Aug 96 23:04:59 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 839492272:02659:0; Thu, 08 Aug 96 09:17:52 BST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa02121; 8 Aug 96 9:17 +0100 Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2182; Thu, 08 Aug 96 04:17:08 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7114; Thu, 08 Aug 96 04:16:39 EDT Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 10:02:08 MET Reply-To: Claudio Gnoli Sender: Lojban list From: Claudio Gnoli Subject: Re: Resolution of compound words X-To: Lojban mailing list To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <839492226.2121.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R I wrote on the ConLang list: > John Cowan, while speaking about Loglan and Lojban: > > Actually, there are two subgoals with different purposes: > > to be able to divide utterances into words unambiguously, and to be > > able to divide multi-morpheme words into morphemes unambiguously. > Please can someone shortly explain how this latter works? And Lojbab kindly replied: > Lojban multi-morpheme compounds, called "lujvo" are composed of pieces, > called "rafsi" (affixes), and when warranted by the word-formation > rules, the letters "y", "r" and/or "n" as "word-glue". The use of the > latter are completely prescribed: (...) > There is no duplication in the rafsi assignments; this means for > example, that the three-letter rafsi "bri" is assigned to "bridi" and t > no other root word, and "vla" is assigned to "valsi" and to no other > root word. (...) Thanks a lot for your explanation. I suppose all this must to be somewhere in Lojban ftp and www sites, however I didn't yet find it, due to lack of time and to difficulties in quickly accessing the 'Net. So I apologize if my questions are someway naive. What I wonder now is: if rafsi are equivalent in meaning to gismu, but shorter, why do not use rafsi instead of gismu also for simple words? E.g., why do not say "bri" instead of "bridi"? BTW, I'm glad to be part of the Lojban community! Greetings all from Italy. Claudio /. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Claudio T. Gnoli self-styled ethologist, zoosemiotician, conlanger, philosopher ...actually, a simple librarian (On vacation from 10 to 25 August)