From - Tue Aug 06 11:27:18 1996 Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [206.241.12.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA20537 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:04:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199608060104.VAA20537@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (206.241.12.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <3.F8B90433@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM>; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 19:37:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:35:20 -0700 Reply-To: David A Johnston Sender: Lojban list X-UIDL: 839293714.000 From: David A Johnston Subject: male/female, man/woman, human/person X-To: Lojban Mailing list To: John Cowan Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 841 Okay, the powers that be in the lojban community discourage the use of nanmu (man) and ninmu (woman), saying that they're sexist. Okay, I totally understand and support that guideline. The thing is, I wonder why they even exist as gismu. Why not just combine fetsi (female) with prenu (person) to form fetpre (female person)? (Or would it be fetypre?) It seems that fetpre and ninmu mean the same thing. They both have the same place structure, and are non-age and -species specific. Any thoughts? -marvin /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ a(m,W)float m,W;{int e=1;float p,Q,n;p=m;Q=W;while(e++<126) {n=p;p=p*p-Q*Q+m;Q=2*n*Q+W;if((p*p+Q*Q)>=4)return e;}return 0;}main(){float _,E=1.5;while((E-=0.130434783)>-1.5){for(_= (-2);_<1;_+=0.037974684)putchar(a(_,E)+32);putchar('\n');}}