From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Fri Oct 11 00:24:13 1996 Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA16136 ; Fri, 11 Oct 96 00:24:09 BST Received: from punt-4.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 844971148:15046:0; Thu, 10 Oct 96 19:12:28 BST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-4.mail.demon.net id aa13853; 10 Oct 96 19:10 BST Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1476; Thu, 10 Oct 96 14:10:36 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3561; Thu, 10 Oct 96 14:10:17 EDT Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:09:16 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: fragile place structure X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <844971116.13853.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R Let me strengthen what John said: >> Also, where can I look at a general (tentative) schedule of LLG's priorities >> as to freezing of various levels of description, publications, and so forth. > >We expect to have the machine grammar frozen by the end of this year; The grammar has been baselined for several years, and only very limited changes have been identified for the last couple of years, almost all of which were expansions to the language. The membership voted that the grammar WILL be baselined as of 31 December 1994 or upon publication of the reference grammar, whichever comes first. no "expectation" - this is as close as Lojban has to "Law". It would take a special membership meeting to change that, and it ain't gonna happen %^) Likewise the lexicon freeze as reflected in the dictionary, as of 30 June 1997. These will be at least 5 year freezes, and there is no intent to even discuss a mechanism for change until after that time. But in the case of the gismu place structures, there have been no changes at all in at least a year and a half. I theoretically could consider a change while working on the dictionary but all I have done involving the dictionary in ages has resulted only in rewording and clarification of place structures of gismu, and not any substantive changes. The amount of backcheckinbg needed for me to make a place structrue change work at this point means that I seriously do not expect any changes. Just as a clarification: pending the dictionary publication, the authoratative lists of gismu and cmavo are the separate files ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab/wordlists/gismu and ~/cmavo Of these two the gismu list is solid; the cmavo list is more likely to get clarificational rewording as part of the dictionary work, since the cmavo definitions in the list now are rather poor for dictionary purposes. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/"