From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Mon Oct 21 18:18:15 1996 Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA16396 ; Mon, 21 Oct 96 18:18:12 BST Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 845651759:00884:324; Fri, 18 Oct 96 16:15:59 BST Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa04719; 18 Oct 96 16:13 BST Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7795; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:51:36 EDT Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5552; Fri, 18 Oct 96 10:51:21 EDT Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:50:33 -0600 Reply-To: Chris A Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris A Bogart Subject: Re: A couple of questions... To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu In-Reply-To: <199610180953.DAA07190@indra.com> Message-ID: <845651623.4719.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, William Westlake Jr. wrote: > I downloaded a version of LogFlash but i'm not sure it's current. Also, > I'm not sure where I should begin in a study of Lojban. Should I use > LogFlash to start getting a handle on some of the vocabulary or should I > concentrate on other more technical languages...Any suggestions? :-) This is what I would recommend: - There's some paper out there, I forget the name, that's a quick overview of the grammar, touching on a lot of different topics. Read that first. If you pay close attention to the examples you'll pick up a little vocab by osmosis. - Skim the reference grammar, or at least the chapters that look interesting. Come back and re-skim or read parts of it whenever you get curious about something. - Find some short, easy texts in Lojban (there are some in the textbook) and practice reading them -- at first you'll need to look up most of the words -- but that's a great way to learn vocabulary - Try translating English sentences into Lojban -- like some favorite quotations -- something difficult but interesting. Memorizing vocabulary is boring for me at least, and very difficult, but I can spend hours trying to translate something, and learn a lot more, and not be bored with Lojban at the end of it. Another thing that helped me was putting together a cheat sheet with the most important cmavo sorted, grouped, listed, and explained -- it made me think about how they all relate to each other, and of course it's been very useful since then. It's about 10 pages long, and *extremely* dog-eared now. Chris