From - Tue Oct 22 09:34:40 1996 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Date: Tue Oct 22 09:34:40 1996 Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: LogFlash To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-UIDL: f18f2bda608ae08224fccb4673089487 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 2409 Message-ID: The version of LogFlash on the ftp and WWW servers is indeed the current one, which has been unchanged for at least 5 years. The only thing that has changed in that timeframe was teh word lists, and those have not been changed since LogFlash was put online. Do we have a stable language, or what? zo'o As to the tradeoff between l4earning vocabulary and grammar - it probably depends on what you will be doing with the language and where/when. If you are reading texts, you can probably do fine by learning vocabulary as you need it by looking it up. If you are going to write Lojban, and wish to do it well, you need a good overview of what concepts are covered in the gismu list, and which are not, or you will spend time groping for metaphors when none are needed. But even then, if you are composing online and have a copy of the draft dictionary or even the gismu list that you can grep, you will get by. But if you wish to compose offline, or to converse in Lojban, vocabulary starts playing much more important a role than mastery of the grammar. Of course, anyone who does LogFlash and finishes, contributes to the scientific research aspect of the language (assuming they send their data files to us when they are done). For them, I recommend starting in "Gaining Control" mode rather than the default "New Word review" mode which is intended to give a faster overview of the whole vocabulary with less focus on actually mastering any particular set of words. Gaining Control mode followed by Maintenance mode, has been demonstrated to teachg the vocabulary so effectively that you won't forget the words if you try. (Nora still can pull up old TLI vocabulary that she learned in 1981-4 with LogFlash, and she has avoided looking at those words since 1987.) An abbreviated form of the diagrammed summary (lojex.txt in its full form) is found in Chapter 2 of the refgrammar, though the latest draft has had substantial rewrite to blend it with the rest of the book. lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/"