From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Tue Oct 08 00:49:11 1996
Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP
	id AA15996 ; Tue, 08 Oct 96 00:49:04 BST
Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk
          id 844698388:00179:79; Mon, 07 Oct 96 15:26:28 BST
Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net
           id aa29769; 7 Oct 96 15:24 BST
Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3)
   with BSMTP id 9085; Mon, 07 Oct 96 10:24:28 EDT
Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with
 BSMTP id 3958; Mon, 07 Oct 96 10:24:15 EDT
Date:         Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:21:57 -0400
Reply-To:     John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
Sender:       Lojban list <LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From:         John Cowan <cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG>
Organization: Lojban Peripheral
Subject:      Re: fragile place structure
X-To:         Lojban List <lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu>
To:           Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN <LOJBAN%CUVMB.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Message-ID: <844698322.29769.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Status: R


Andrew Strader cusku di'e

> The policy of usage determining officialdom in the grammar seems to waver
> insecurely when it comes to what I've seen of bajra. Now I always like how
> bajra was handled, place structure-wise, but then I noticed in the
> self-teaching lessons it is consistently used with a place structure of "x1
> runs to x2 from x3 via x4", so I shrugged it off because there were a number
> of such errors to be weeded out of those lessons, but then I encountered it
> in the reference grammar (Chapter 7, I believe), and it appears a more
> efficient way to communicate that one runs to two from three would be with
> bajra klama. If I'm looking at anomolous usage, I'd figure the usefulness of
> the dictionary bajra would take precedence.

The dictionary represents the new version.  The old version, parallel to
"klama", survives in the uncorrected textbook; the example in Chapter 7
of
the reference grammar was copied uncritically from an old document and
will
be fixed.

> Also, where can I look at a general (tentative) schedule of LLG's priorities
> as to freezing of various levels of description, publications, and so forth.

We expect to have the machine grammar frozen by the end of this year;
at the same time, the reference grammar (book) will be ready for
printing.
(Obviously, we may still fix errors in the book, as opposed to making
changes in the language.)  The dictionary (place structures, mostly)
should
freeze six months later.  The textbook will follow when we can; nothing
in
it is authoritative anyway.

--
John Cowan                                              cowan@ccil.org
                        e'osai ko sarji la lojban