From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Fri Nov 15 23:12:54 1996 Received: from relay-10.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA16755 ; Fri, 15 Nov 96 23:12:52 GMT Received: from relay-10.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 848073620:10:04387:0; Fri, 15 Nov 96 16:00:20 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by relay-9.mail.demon.net id aa907529; 15 Nov 96 16:00 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6653; Fri, 15 Nov 96 10:59:52 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8148; Fri, 15 Nov 96 10:59:33 EDT Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:58:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Bruce R. Gilson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Bruce R. Gilson" Subject: Re: CONLANG: Re: Vocabulary definition To: conlang@diku.dk, cowan@LOCKE.CCIL.ORG, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: <848073616.97529.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R John Cowan wrote: >Claudio Gnoli wrote (on Conlang): >> Which are the most "useful" meanings? I suppose this problem was >> faced when the basic Lojban vocabulary was defined. >It should have been, certainly. The Lojban place structure list, >which contains entries of the form: >klama: x1 goes/comes to x2 from x3 via route x4 using means x5 >has been obsessively reviewed and revised and re-reviewed and >re-revised, but it's a tremendous job: very few people have the >fortitude to process 1350 or so entries, and tend to run out of >steam somewhere in the Fs. >In essence, this is one of those jobs that is not so much >finished as abandoned. There have been various attempts at >rationalizing entries that should be parallel, sometimes successfully, >sometimes not. This is why I felt that the Lojbanis did a bad thing when they decided to declare it "baselined." But Lojbab and I have had arguments on that subject, and my view was definitely not shared by the majority of the Lojban group. And that, basically, is why I dropped the Lojban list. I felt I could not contrib- ute what I wanted to, which was to help develop a language. Bruce R. Gilson email: brg@netcom.com IRC: EZ-as-pi WWW: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3141 (for language stuff: add /langpage.html)