From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Wed Nov 13 23:37:20 1996 Received: from relay-6.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA16747 ; Wed, 13 Nov 96 23:37:17 GMT Received: from relay-6.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 847911677:6:28968:2; Wed, 13 Nov 96 19:01:17 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa517145; 13 Nov 96 19:01 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0024; Wed, 13 Nov 96 14:01:00 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 2777; Wed, 13 Nov 96 14:00:41 EDT Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:00:08 -0700 Reply-To: Chris A Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris A Bogart Subject: Re: place switching cmavo... X-To: lojban%cuvmb.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN In-Reply-To: <199611131752.KAA02444@indra.com> Message-ID: <847911672.517145.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R > On 1996-11-12 "Trevor C. Hill" writes: > > ... It seems to me that because the places are, for the most part, > > ordered by frequency of use, these words should simply take a certain > > place (x2 for se) and put it at the front, leaving the other places in > > their original order... > (because you usually want to fill x1 and so need "fa" as well as "se".) I agree with this observation, although I don't favor changing it, since I think giving up on the baseline would be far more damaging to the language. I do think swapping is better than shifting in the case of "te" -- consider the usefulness of "te dunda". But "xe klama" will often require "fu", and for some reason the fa-fu series has always struck me as awkward. Chris