From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:59:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 14471 invoked from network); 13 Nov 1996 19:01:34 -0000 Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 13 Nov 1996 19:01:34 -0000 Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.EC7DD9C8@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Wed, 13 Nov 1996 20:01:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:00:08 -0700 Reply-To: Chris A Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris A Bogart Subject: Re: place switching cmavo... To: lojban%cuvmb.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu In-Reply-To: <199611131752.KAA02444@indra.com> Content-Length: 772 Lines: 17 Message-ID: > On 1996-11-12 "Trevor C. Hill" writes: > > ... It seems to me that because the places are, for the most part, > > ordered by frequency of use, these words should simply take a certain > > place (x2 for se) and put it at the front, leaving the other places in > > their original order... > (because you usually want to fill x1 and so need "fa" as well as "se".) I agree with this observation, although I don't favor changing it, since I think giving up on the baseline would be far more damaging to the language. I do think swapping is better than shifting in the case of "te" -- consider the usefulness of "te dunda". But "xe klama" will often require "fu", and for some reason the fa-fu series has always struck me as awkward. Chris