From lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Wed Nov 13 23:36:44 1996 Received: from relay-10.mail.demon.net by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA16716 ; Wed, 13 Nov 96 23:36:40 GMT Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by mailstore for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk id 847873041:1:02257:14; Wed, 13 Nov 96 08:17:21 GMT Received: from cunyvm.cuny.edu ([128.228.1.2]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa100997; 13 Nov 96 8:14 GMT Received: from CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 8196; Wed, 13 Nov 96 03:13:28 EST Received: from CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5831; Wed, 13 Nov 96 03:13:09 EDT Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:13:18 +0100 Reply-To: "R.M. Uittenbogaard" Sender: Lojban list From: "R.M. Uittenbogaard" Subject: Re: place switching cmavo... To: Multiple recipients of list LOJBAN Message-ID: <847872990.1997.0@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Status: R > I have an idea that i'd like to discuss regarding the 'se te ve xe' > cmavo... It seems to me that because the places are, for the most part, > ordered by frequency of use, these words should simply take a certain > place (x2 for se) and put it at the front, leaving the other places in > their original order... So instead of: le dargu cu ve klama lemi zdani do mi le karce (which is quite messed up all right) you mean: le dargu cu xe'o klama mi lemi zdani do le karce where "xe'o" is the conversion moving the (old) x4 place to the (new) x1 place, and shifting the old x1,x2,x3 places to the new x2,x3,x4 places. Might be useful, but I am wondering why so many people (including myself) consider FA cmavo a burden as opposed to SE cmavo. fo le dargu cu klama fa mi do lemi zdani fu le karce all right, you have convinced me :-) co'o