From - Fri Nov 22 09:22:46 1996 Reply-To: Chris A Bogart Date: Fri Nov 22 09:22:46 1996 Sender: Lojban list From: Chris A Bogart Subject: Re: place switching cmavo... X-To: lojban%cuvmb.bitnet@mitvma.mit.edu To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199611211642.JAA09579@indra.com> X-UIDL: 1cb6c7a9a99c9bcecc44c7bb5db99366 Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 858 Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, R.M. Uittenbogaard wrote: > I always thought the places were numbered subsequently, and > > fo le dargu cu klama fa mi do lemi zdani le karce > > meant that "le karce" occupies the x4 place as well, which makes > it equal in meaning to: > > mi klama do lemi zdani le dargu .e le karce , or > mi klama do lemi zdani le dargu fo le karce > > So instead, filled places are skipped for subsequent sumti? I think you're right and Lojbab is mistaken on this one, but I don't have my references here at work to look it up. I seem to remember a discussion on this where someone suggested that (to use your example) le karce and le dargu would act like appositives, supposedly naming the same thing (and I forget the cmavo which would do this directly: po'u? no'u? something like that maybe...) co'o mi'e kris