From - Wed Nov 13 12:58:37 1996 Reply-To: jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU Date: Wed Nov 13 12:58:37 1996 Sender: Lojban list From: Jim Carter Subject: Re: place switching cmavo... X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-UIDL: 1d5a412589d03ba6f51f0d1de7659edf X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1136 Message-ID: On 1996-11-12 "Trevor C. Hill" writes: > ... It seems to me that because the places are, for the most part, > ordered by frequency of use, these words should simply take a certain > place (x2 for se) and put it at the front, leaving the other places in > their original order... (because you usually want to fill x1 and so need "fa" as well as "se".) I also have noticed that effect. If it were five years ago I would have (and I think I did) argued to have conversion operators just yank a place rather than swap places. But we now have the inertia of a fair amount of text written to the original TLI behavior of conversions, plus a baseline, so my support for the idea has to be virtual, not actual. -gua!spi conversion operators do not swap places; they leave remaining places in the original order. James F. Carter Voice 310 825 2897 FAX 310 206 6673 UCLA-Mathnet; 6115 MSA; 405 Hilgard Ave.; Los Angeles, CA, USA 90095-1555 Internet: jimc@math.ucla.edu (finger for PGP key) UUCP:...!{ucsd,ames,ncar,gatech,purdue,rutgers,decvax,uunet}!math.ucla.edu!jimc