From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:58:58 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 17931 invoked from network); 21 Dec 1996 07:31:49 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 21 Dec 1996 07:31:49 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <2.DE614DE5@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 8:31:47 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 02:30:04 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: PLI: evidentials in reported speech X-To: a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1018 Lines: 27 Message-ID: And wrote: >> On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, And Rosta wrote: >> > If you wanted to report me saying "JC (phwoar!) is playing G" >> > then you might say "La and said lickerishly that JC is playing >> > G", for example. Same goes for Lojban. >> >> Hmmm, would it be equivalent to say (in Lojban) >> >> La and said that (phwoar-dai) JC is playing G >> >> placing the empathy-ized attitudinal after "lenu" or >> between "le" and "nu"? Or after "said", maybe? >> >> co'o do'u > >I'd have thought you need a BAI phrase modifying "said". I think what people are groping for are "sei" metalinguistic comments. If you want to add one of these you may 1) add it outside of a quote as in "la .and. cusku sei [ckaji be leka me la likric] lu ... li'u or for the kind of embedded speaker-identification often found in writing: lu ... seisa'a la and. sekai leka me la likric kei cusku ... li'u which in English would be "....", And said lickerishly, "...". You do not need the sa'a if the words are not embedded into the quote. lojbab