From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:58:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 5964 invoked from network); 18 Dec 1996 18:58:36 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 18 Dec 1996 18:58:36 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <12.4E516566@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:58:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 18:53:21 GMT+0 Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list From: And Rosta Organization: University of Central Lancashire Subject: Re: PLI: evidentials in reported speech X-To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 590 Lines: 14 Message-ID: The simple answer is that unquoted UI (or most of them) hold at utterance level and are not subordinable within, say, a reported jufra se valsi. They are like "Wow!" and "Ouch!" and "OOH, there there" and parentheticals like "(I reckon)", etc. Similarly in English "He read that Julie Christie (phwoar!) plays Gertrude", said by me, the "phwoar" expresses my emotion. If you wanted to report me saying "JC (phwoar!) is playing G" then you might say "La and said lickerishly that JC is playing G", for example. Same goes for Lojban. Or have I missed the point of the debate? coo, mie And