From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:58:43 2010 Reply-To: And Rosta Sender: Lojban list Date: Wed Dec 18 14:46:52 1996 From: And Rosta Organization: University of Central Lancashire Subject: Re: PLI: evidentials in reported speech To: LOJBAN@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-UIDL: 22f48fa0db1ba684acddb352c1b92bba Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 590 X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 18 14:46:52 1996 X-From-Space-Address: - Message-ID: The simple answer is that unquoted UI (or most of them) hold at utterance level and are not subordinable within, say, a reported jufra se valsi. They are like "Wow!" and "Ouch!" and "OOH, there there" and parentheticals like "(I reckon)", etc. Similarly in English "He read that Julie Christie (phwoar!) plays Gertrude", said by me, the "phwoar" expresses my emotion. If you wanted to report me saying "JC (phwoar!) is playing G" then you might say "La and said lickerishly that JC is playing G", for example. Same goes for Lojban. Or have I missed the point of the debate? coo, mie And