From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:58:42 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 5375 invoked from network); 18 Dec 1996 15:19:14 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 18 Dec 1996 15:19:13 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.AAC3A68E@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:19:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:59:47 GMT Reply-To: Don Wiggins Sender: Lojban list From: Don Wiggins Subject: PLI: zoigy. unless .gy. xelfanva lu secau To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 551 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <-2G_FGIr7FJ.A.r6B.i60kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> ni'o la xorxes. pu fanva lu secau li'u fuzoigy. unless .gy. The conjunction "unless" implies causality something which does not follow from 'secau'. I will go to the bank unless you give me some money. means, I will go to the bank for-the-reason you do not give me some money. .i mi klama lo banxo ki'ulenu do na dunda lo jdini mi whereas, .i mi klama lo banxo secaulenu do dunda lo jdini mi I take to mean, "I will go to the bank, and you didn't give me money". Similar to, .i mi klama lo banxo faulen do na dunda lo jdini mi