From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:56:55 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 6026 invoked from network); 26 Jan 1997 18:07:25 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 26 Jan 1997 18:07:25 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.9F438DCF@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:07:22 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:06:42 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: cmavo list question To: cbogart@QUETZAL.COM Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 38 Message-ID: >The copy of the cmavo liste I got off /pub/accesss/lojbab/wordlist >doesn't match what you just said: > >>The cmavo list (which may not >>match the refgram but I hope so) has >> >>fa'a in the same direction as some point >>to'o in the opposite direction from some point >>zo'i nearer to some point than X >>ze'o farther from some point than X > >According to my cmaste, which I downloaded this evening: > >fa'a arriving at/directly towards >to'o departing from/directly away from >--More-- >zo'i nearer than .../inward/approaching from... >ze'o beyond/outward/receding from... I think those match. thinking location, which rules out the arriving/dpearting/approaching/ receding definitions, directly towards = in the same direction as directly away from = ion the opposite direction of zo'i nearer to = "nearer than" since nearer has an implicit comparison to another point. ze'o farther from = beyond Also the keywords "inward" implies "closer to in direct line of sight" and outwards implies farther from looking directly away. The cmavo list on the ftp site is probably the same one that I have here. We need to add lines for a couple of cmavo thatr were added in the last big debate a year ago, but I think there are no other changes. I will be trying to work on a new upload of the gismu and cmavo lists, but publishing the refgrammar is higheest priority right now. lojbab