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Date: Mon Mar 10 10:09:02 1997
From: Trevor Hill <trevor@amon-ra.res.cmu.edu>
Subject:      Re: Some how-do-you-says
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        I've been thinking about this quite a bit... :)

so...  you want to say "the mothers of x and y", meaning the mother of x
and the mother of y???

Since it seems to me that "le" is supposed to refer _individuals_
satisfying the x1 place of the inner bridi, (tell me if i'm wrong...), you
could say:

        le mamta be pa lu'a le'i ko'a (plus) ko'e...

I'm not sure of the correct word to join sumti into a set like that, so i
stuck in the "(plus)" for that, but it seems to me that this means:

        Those-I-describe-as mother(s)-[individually]-of
                one member-of set (ko'a plus ko'e).......

This leaves open the interpretation that we describe two separate mothers
of ko'a, but I don't think anyone would take this meaning... ;)

So to say it meaning "X who are/is [individually] mother(s) of both ko'a
and ko'e, it seems to me you could say:

        le mamta be ko'a joi ko'e.....

mmmmmm....  Please tell me if i'm off base here...  I'm just trying to
figure this stuff out at this point, but it is definitely interesting...
:)


co'o
mi'e trevyr

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