From LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET Sat Mar 6 22:48:25 2010 Reply-To: ia@stryx.demon.co.uk Sender: Lojban list Date: Thu Apr 17 12:13:35 1997 From: Iain Alexander Subject: Re: ma'oste To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1241 X-From-Space-Date: Thu Apr 17 12:13:35 1997 X-From-Space-Address: - Message-ID: In message <861219039.0911088.0@vms.dc.lsoft.com> eflamini@UNS.EDU.AR writes: > >ma djica lenu mi benji ti vo'a > [Iain Alexander] > > It seems to work, but I'm not sure whether 'vo'a' repeats the first place of > 'djica' or that of 'benji'. vo'a KOhA4 x1 it pro-sumti: repeats 1st place of main bridi of this sentence I'm fairly sure that means the outermost bridi. If you want to refer to the first place of the current bridi (in this case that of {benji}), you can use {le nei}. and Lee Daniel Crocker comments: > Couldn't that be solved by terminating the description sumti explicitly? > "ma djica lenu mi benji ti ku vo'a" No, because that puts {vo'a} itself in the third place of {djica} (the purpose of the desire), instead of that of {benji}, which is what we wanted. eflamini@UNS.EDU.AR: > Alternatively, if ko'a is not assigned so far, and context ensures the > desired interpretation, you could say > > ma djica lenu mi benji ti ko'a That might be understood, but it's not very satisfactory. If you're going to use something vague, you're probably just as well using {ra}. -- Iain Alexander PGP 1024-bit key id B501A0AD ia@stryx.demon.co.uk I.Alexander@bsn0106.wins.icl.co.uk