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Subject:      CPE: Corliss Lamont
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coidoi lobypli

I seek Lojban equivalents for the following:

+ syllogism
+ mortal
+ immortal
+ philosophy
+ personality
+ soul
+ hypothesis
+
+ All men are mortal.
+ Socrates is a man.
+ Therefore Socrates is mortal.

in order to translate the opening words of
_The Illusion of Immortality_ by Corliss Lamont.

Thus far I've managed:

+ syllogism = le cmulojmo'a
+ mortal = cu mrobi'o
+ immortal = cu vi'orji'e
+ philosophy = lezu'o pijysisku
+ personality = le prekai
+ soul = le ruxyse'i
+ hypothesis = le skecipsmadi
+
+ All men are mortal
+ = .i ro le remna cu mrobi'o
+ Socrates is a man.
+ = .i la SOkrates. cu remna
+ Therefore Socrates is mortal.
+ = .i la SOkrates. seni'i cu mrobi'o

but I feel pretty dubious about several of
these, especially {cmulojmo'a} & my use of
{seni'i}.

Here's the passage I hope to learn from
translating:

> "All men are mortal" begins the most famous
> of all syllogisms, and it proceeds to tell
> us that "Socrates is a man" and "therefore
> Socrates is mortal."  The branch of philosophy
> known as logic has made much of this syllogism
> as an example of perfect reasoning; what is
> more significant is the prodigious amount of
> time and energy which philosophy as a whole
> has spent on inquiring into its true and
> complete meaning.  On that meaning have been
> thought to hang the destiny of man, the fate
> of nations and even the existence of God.
> The real question has been:  How seriously
> are we to take the proposition that men and
> Socrates are mortal?  For there exists a
> well-known counter-proposition to the effect
> that men and Socrates are _im_mortal; or at
> least that what we call their personalities
> or souls are immortal.  In fact, Socrates
> himself, if the _Dialogues_ of Plato are to
> be trusted, was one of the first to advance
> the hypothesis of the soul's immortality.

co'imi'e markl.