From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:48:45 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 10587 invoked from network); 11 Apr 1997 08:50:16 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 11 Apr 1997 08:50:16 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <11.9A508649@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Fri, 11 Apr 1997 10:50:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 17:22:35 -0600 Reply-To: mark.vines@wholefoods.com Sender: Lojban list From: Mark Vines Subject: philosophy X-To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 967 Lines: 34 Message-ID: coidoi lobypli I've read with interest your attempts to coin (or avoid coining) a lujvo for "philosophy". You have persuaded me that philosophy is a {seltadni}, a field of study. I vehemently deny the claim that philosophy is a {saske}, a methodically cultivated body of knowledge. And I am reluctant to accept any lujvo, such as {tadnytadni}, that applies only to some branches of philosophy and not to all. I am convinced that {kamprije}, wisdom, is the key. Earlier, I focused on {sisku bele kamprije}, one who seeks wisdom. Now I prefer {troci bele kamprije}, one who tries to attain wisdom. I propose the following: + philosopher = le kampijytoctadni + philosophy = le se kampijytoctadni with the following place structure: $tadni1 = $troci1 $tadni2 If there's no rule against the /jt/ cluster then feel free to delete the /y/ from /jyt/. Of course, your debate will continue despite my proposal, which you are welcome to criticize. co'omi'e markl.