From - Tue Apr 15 11:05:26 1997 Reply-To: mark.vines@wholefoods.com Date: Tue Apr 15 11:05:26 1997 Sender: Lojban list From: Mark Vines Subject: philosophy X-To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1005 Message-ID: coidoi lobypli I've read with interest your attempts to coin (or avoid coining) a lujvo for "philosophy". You have persuaded me that philosophy is a {seltadni}, a field of study. I vehemently deny the claim that philosophy is a {saske}, a methodically cultivated body of knowledge. And I am reluctant to accept any lujvo, such as {tadnytadni}, that applies only to some branches of philosophy and not to all. I am convinced that {kamprije}, wisdom, is the key. Earlier, I focused on {sisku bele kamprije}, one who seeks wisdom. Now I prefer {troci bele kamprije}, one who tries to attain wisdom. I propose the following: + philosopher = le kampijytoctadni + philosophy = le se kampijytoctadni with the following place structure: $tadni1 = $troci1 $tadni2 If there's no rule against the /jt/ cluster then feel free to delete the /y/ from /jyt/. Of course, your debate will continue despite my proposal, which you are welcome to criticize. co'omi'e markl.