From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:48:06 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 26744 invoked from network); 9 May 1997 18:47:36 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 9 May 1997 18:47:36 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <3.B0410B35@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:47:35 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:52 -0400 Reply-To: SwiftRain Sender: Lojban list From: SwiftRain Organization: Will Philosophize for Food Subject: coi To: LOJBAN@CUVMB.COLUMBIA.EDU Content-Length: 2002 Lines: 46 Message-ID: coi. doi ma ni'o mi tadni Lojban .i xu do ctuca mi ni'o xu de'u xamgu .i mi troci .a'i I hope that was at least close enough that you understood what I meant. I have been using Logflash and the reference grammar and I have some comments/questions/suggestions: - Logflash seems like a very good way to learn vocabulary. I have been using it for a few days and I already know as much or more than I knew after several years of French. :) I wonder, the order of the new words does not seem random, what is it based on? I notice the words used as examples in the grammar are near the beginning -- is that intentional? It is a good idea, either way. - I do not yet understand the grammar very well. I have looked around for some example text to give me more context, and I found things like MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech -- which I'm sure would be quite interesting if I understood it, but I am still downroundabouts in the "mi klama le zarci" level. ;) What would really make this easier to digest is some sort of text which works very slowly from simple to complex, using each new idea in various contexts before moving on. Perhaps once I understand the language well enough I'll write something like that. :) - One idea I've had for how to make learning vocabulary easier: Lojban picture books. You know, like they have for little children: "gluta" with a picture of a gluta, and "plise" with a picture of a plise. In fact it would probably be a good way to teach grammar, too: simple stories/pictures (preferably without translations) which would teach vocabulary and, incidentally, give a basic intuitive understanding of things like "le/la/lo" and place structure. That's about it for now. But could those here who know Lojban well maybe help me with the grammar? Perhaps I can try to write some simple stories, and you can show me if I do something wrong? :) co'o for now. ;) -- SwiftRain -- http://www.elision.com/sr/