Date:  Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:47:43 -0500 (EST)
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From: Mark Vines <vinesm@wholefoods.com>
Subject:      Re: Comparison: Loglan / Lojban ?
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Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@ACCESS.DIGEX.NET> said:

> Another area of significant difference is that we worked
> with an existing semantic problem involving varying levels
> of abstraction (the phrase "object raising" is used in
> linguistics, and we use "sumti raising" in the more
> generalized Lojban case) within the semantics of many
> predicates.  An example of this is the distinction between
> "The food is done" vs. "The preparation of the food is done".
> Lojban requires that the former be marked because "the food"
> is "raised" from the abstraction "the preparation of the
> food".  TLI Loglan has no way to mark this.  The result is
> semantically very muddy.

Mark Vines responds:

How should sumti raising be marked in Lojban?  I doubt that
I am doing this correctly.

co'omi'e markl.