From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:54:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 4958 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1997 19:09:26 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 27 Aug 1997 19:09:26 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <3.F0622716@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:09:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Re: Comparison: Loglan / Lojban ? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199708271439.KAA23192@tune.cs.columbia.edu> (message from Mark Vines on Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:38:33 -0600) Content-Length: 746 Lines: 23 Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:38:33 -0600 >From: Mark Vines > >coi doi lobypli > >Bob LeChevalier said: > >> predicates. An example of this is the distinction between >> "The food is done" vs. "The preparation of the food is done". >> Lojban requires that the former be marked because "the food" >> is "raised" from the abstraction "the preparation of the >> food". TLI Loglan has no way to mark this. The result is >> semantically very muddy. > >Mark Vines responds: > >How should sumti raising be marked in Lojban? I doubt that >I am doing this correctly. It's why God created {tu'a}. Arise, sumti, and be free! I think there are good explanations of this out there already. ~mark