Message-Id: <199709240348.WAA27938@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: HACKER G N Date: Tue Sep 23 22:48:55 1997 Sender: Lojban list From: HACKER G N Subject: Re: na`e X-To: John Cowan X-cc: Lojban List To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <0EGZ00I2D4F6FF@mail.newcastle.edu.au> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 866 X-From-Space-Date: Tue Sep 23 22:48:55 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, John Cowan wrote: > JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS wrote: > > > Lojban is not really well suited to handle quantification of selbri, > > but something like this at least superficially works: > > > > (1) su'o bu'a poi na vreta zo'u le mlatu cu bu'a le stizu > > For some which is not "vreta", the cat the chair. > > > > I think {su'o bu'a poi na vreta} really means something else, but > > that's a different story which I'm not sure we want to get into. > > For "poi" read "cei", which makes everything fine. But if "bu'a" means "some selbri 1", then how can it be assigned to a specific selbri without "poi"? I thought "cei" was for assignable pro-bridi - which "bu'a" isn't - and "poi" was for relative clauses - which are one of the few ways you can restrict the scope of a logically quantifiable existential pro-bridi.