From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:54:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Received: (qmail 31965 invoked from network); 24 Sep 1997 02:33:34 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se (192.36.125.6) by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with SMTP; 24 Sep 1997 02:33:34 -0000 Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <3.7522E63B@SEGATE.SUNET.SE>; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 4:33:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:32:25 +1000 Reply-To: HACKER G N Sender: Lojban list From: HACKER G N Subject: Re: na`e X-To: John Cowan X-cc: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <0EGZ00I2D4F6FF@mail.newcastle.edu.au> Content-Length: 866 Lines: 20 Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, John Cowan wrote: > JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS wrote: > > > Lojban is not really well suited to handle quantification of selbri, > > but something like this at least superficially works: > > > > (1) su'o bu'a poi na vreta zo'u le mlatu cu bu'a le stizu > > For some which is not "vreta", the cat the chair. > > > > I think {su'o bu'a poi na vreta} really means something else, but > > that's a different story which I'm not sure we want to get into. > > For "poi" read "cei", which makes everything fine. But if "bu'a" means "some selbri 1", then how can it be assigned to a specific selbri without "poi"? I thought "cei" was for assignable pro-bridi - which "bu'a" isn't - and "poi" was for relative clauses - which are one of the few ways you can restrict the scope of a logically quantifiable existential pro-bridi.