Message-Id: <199709280845.DAA20155@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Pycyn@AOL.COM Date: Sun Sep 28 03:45:24 1997 Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: The recent (and ongoing?) flood X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1675 X-From-Space-Date: Sun Sep 28 03:45:24 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU While I admit I am occasionally delusional in this area, it does seem to me that almost every topic since the message trying to deal with a Raffi song is one which we have discussed in detail -- and solved -- before. Or solved something so near to it that the issue is practically decided: the relations among the various concepts of negation, veridicality and specificity (and all the other words that cluster around them), various tricky complex connectives and quantifiers, even _nitcu_ itself. So why were these solutions not incorporated into the Refgram or, if they were, can we not find them. And if they were not, where can we go to get our old solutions? Which brings up one of the other topics -- a running record of what we have done. There are now nearly 10 years of this list in one form or another; is there a summary of decisions or even disccussions or an index of someone's stack of records (in a form that would be usable for checking on issues and upshots)? A run through my issues of JL does not find much of this material recorded, except for problems directly involved in translations and, of course, even that stopped several years ago, before some of the more interesting skirmishes. Of course, JL isn't indexed either so I may have missed things (and may even be short some issues), but this does seem a rather unfortunate situation. Not that I think our old decisions have to stand (there are several, you may recall, that I would happily see overturned), but at least it would be nice not to have to reinvent the whole wheel, just lay out the old positions and any new data for reconsideration. It sure would save time and traffic. >|83 pc