From - Fri Sep 26 10:30:44 1997 Message-ID: <342BC714.6859@locke.ccil.org> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:30:44 -0400 From: John Cowan Organization: Lojban Peripheral X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lojban List Subject: Re: ei, einai References: <199709260405.XAA05516@locke.ccil.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 715 la xorxes. cusku di'e > Unfortunately "einai" is glossed as "freedom" in the cmavo list, > which would reverse the meaning of last two. "Freedom to do > something" is not the same as "non-obligation to do something", > but rather it is "non-obligation to NOT do something". I don't > think that the "nai" of "einai" should have this double negative > implication, so I propose to fix the gloss in the cmavo list. I think that ".einai" is "freedom from" rather than "freedom to", and that the latter does require a double negation. (Which implicitly answers my question about attitudinal vs. "na" scope.) -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban