From LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU Wed Sep 24 11:19:31 1997
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Date: Wed Sep 24 11:19:31 1997
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From: Mark Vines <vinesm@wholefoods.com>
Subject:      Re: RV: na'e entails na?
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In-Reply-To:  And Rosta <a.rosta@UCLAN.AC.UK> "Re: RV: na'e entails na?" (Sep
              24,  3:40pm)
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coi doi lobypli

la .and. cusku di'e

> For example, everyone is either citizen of France
> or citizen of some other country. [NB INCLUSIVE OR]
> I want to describe the latter group as "na`e fraso
> zei selgugde" [I'm taking x1 of selgugde to be a
> citizen]. But since for example someone can be a
> citizen of both France and Britain, "na`e fraso zei
> selgugde" would not work if it entails "na fraso
> zei selgugde". "na fraso ..." gives me everyone who
> isn't French, whereas I want everyone who is a
> citizen of a country other than France. For that I
> would like to use "na`e fraso", but will not be
> able to if everyone bar me gets their way!
>
> --And

mi terselpinka di'e

Not _everyone_!  I still agree with you.  But you've
been expressing our opinion more clearly than I can.

co'omi'e markl.