Message-Id: <199709261622.LAA27233@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: John Cowan Date: Fri Sep 26 11:23:01 1997 Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Organization: Lojban Peripheral Subject: Re: ei, einai X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan X-Mozilla-Status: 0015 Content-Length: 732 X-From-Space-Date: Fri Sep 26 11:23:01 1997 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU la xorxes. cusku di'e > Unfortunately "einai" is glossed as "freedom" in the cmavo list, > which would reverse the meaning of last two. "Freedom to do > something" is not the same as "non-obligation to do something", > but rather it is "non-obligation to NOT do something". I don't > think that the "nai" of "einai" should have this double negative > implication, so I propose to fix the gloss in the cmavo list. I think that ".einai" is "freedom from" rather than "freedom to", and that the latter does require a double negation. (Which implicitly answers my question about attitudinal vs. "na" scope.) -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban