Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:14:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710031214.HAA10699@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: "Nearly Correct" (was New thread, anyone?) To: jorge@INTERMEDIA.COM.AR Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 1658 Lines: 32 >cu'u la lojbab >>Book, Chapter 5 Section 15 (symmetric tanru examples) of which the last two >>types I think fill the bill of counterexamples. > >But those are not Lojban examples! They're examples of how tanru-like >things work in other languages, but not of real Lojban tanru. I think I have >read most of the Lojban text that has been written, and I don't remember >ever coming across something like xrula tricu (flower tree) used to mean >"vegetation" or anything like that. The point of including those examples in the book, as I understood it (and I think i explicitly asked Cowan on this) is that they show a ranhe of what is at least minimally permissible in Lojban tanru. That may nit be what Ivan's paper originally was intended for, but in translatingthe examples into Lojban tanru, and including them in the Book they acquire cachet as permissible forms. You and I might avoid them, but (alas?) I think they are permissible. That they have not yet been used does not mean that they will not be. (Actually I have no doubt that Michael Helsem would do so in his poetry, and probably has - it is just a question of how bona fide his Lojban poetry is as Lojban). lojbab ---- lojbab lojbab@access.digex.net Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: ftp.access.digex.net /pub/access/lojbab or see Lojban WWW Server: href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" Order _The Complete Lojban Language_ - see our Web pages or ask me.