Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:55:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710102355.SAA05740@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: Dvorak (& Lojban) X-To: Lojban List To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199710092325.RAA05443@indra.com> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Content-Length: 703 Lines: 16 On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, JORGE JOAQUIN LLAMBIAS wrote: > >A short object will have a small amount of > >longness, and sure enough this corresponds to length. > > The trouble with this is that length is objective, while longness > is subjective. A not very long river may have greater length > than a very long road, for example. So here amount of longness > would seem to go against length. I think this apparent paradox isn't because clani is subjective, but because le'e dargu le'e rirxe cu frica leni te clani ka'u. The subjectivity comes from speaker and listener assuming together that the x3's will be different, not from any necessary subjectivity inherent in clani. co'o mi'e kris