Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:20:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710152220.RAA25333@locke.ccil.org> Reply-To: Lee Daniel Crocker Sender: Lojban list From: "Lee Daniel Crocker (none)" Organization: Piclab (http://www.piclab.com/) Subject: Marriage, etc. X-To: Lojban Group To: John Cowan In-Reply-To: <199710151829.LAA00966@red.colossus.net> from "Ron Kuris" at Oct 15, 97 11:01:03 am X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1183 Lines: 23 > Also, how would one propose marriage in Lojban? I couldn't find the > concept properly expressed in the gismu list. I thought perhaps > something like "lanzu finti" (family type of inventing) but that sounds > really bad. I can't find the concept of agreement/pact/contract of any kind in the gismu list. "le te bilga" is close, and has places for the agreement and its obligations, but not for the parties. Otherwise, "family type-of contract" would be natural. On top of that, even if there were an appropriate brivla, I can't find one for the act of "consent" either, so I can't ask her to. If there were a brivla for agree/consent, it could be used to form lujvo for contract/pact and marriage As an aside, I shudder to think what kind of society might evolve from a language where granting permission is a root concept but mutual consent is not :) -- Lee Daniel Crocker "All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification."--LDC